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Groupon’s Payments Gambit

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retailnathan
retailnathan
10/27/2012 10:16:03 PM
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Re: New Payment Options
@Tom,
"I agree with Nathan.  Groupon has to do something.  Clearly its plan to offer disount coupons to retailers is not going to sustain it long-term."
 
- Google and others will kill it... eventually They offer what everyone else offers, and they aren't special. Without a big leap in innovation what do they offer that others don't? Seriously, their fate is almost already determined.
 
"I still think that by jumping into the payments space, it is hoping to establish a  new market for its coupons, and if it finds any traction at all, will become takeover bait for an established payments company."

- Yup. They'll be taken over for sure.


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Tom Murphy
Tom Murphy
10/24/2012 2:48:51 PM
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Re: New Payment Options
Seth: I've used Groupon a few times to get bargains, but it never occurred to me to think of it as a "social network" or to think that is a system I'd like to use to pay for things in a store.  To me, this is like hearing that Mike Tyson is pursuing a role as a singer. It just doesn't sound right, though I have a curiosity to watch (just to see if it turns into a disaster. I don't really need a new way to spend money.)

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Sage
Sage
10/23/2012 6:22:56 PM
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Re: New Payment Options
Groupon needs to build it's network affect, like Facebook, to have so many users that people won't leave even if they want to.  

I admit, while I'm aware of Groupon it has never crossed my mind to use them.  Plus, there are so many competitors and there is nothing to prevent new people from copying them since they don't have their own product. Also, now Amazon has daily deals.  

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Tom Murphy
Tom Murphy
10/23/2012 3:18:12 PM
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Re: New Payment Options
I agree with Nathan.  Groupon has to do something.  Clearly its plan to offer disount coupons to retailers is not going to sustain it long-term.  I still think that by jumping into the payments space, it is hoping to establish a  new market for its coupons, and if it finds any traction at all, will become takeover bait for an established payments company.

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Probir B.
Probir B.
10/23/2012 1:27:11 AM
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Late entrant but enough opportunities yet
Groupon's entry into the payments market may seem to be too late a step but the fact is that there is still enough space to fill up. Established players have been trying hard to capture that space and Groupon's arrival makes the competition stiffer. In markets like India and China, there is still some considerable opportunities available and hence, although late, Groupon may be able to gain a considerable market share.

Groupon's aim and market is totally new and although it has left many questions unanswered, there are still some improvements untouched in the payments market by the established players like Paypal. Groupon's survival would depend upon how well it explores the opportunities and how it brings customers who are yet to avail payments services from a global player on to the platform.

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retailnathan
retailnathan
10/22/2012 11:16:52 PM
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Re: New Payment Options
"I think Groupon doesn't really need this kind of jump. They are stable and doing well as they are. I also have a feeling that if they will pursue this change, they might be doing this to better serve their customers and not to compete with other payment processors."


- Really? This is certainly a change of events even last year's speculation that Groupon would fail or was failing. Analysts certainly had their valid reasons to believe this.

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Sage
Sage
10/22/2012 7:53:35 PM
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I think it's probally a smart move.  According to this article Groupon launches credit card payment business | Reuters, the benefits really depends on the sizeo of the purchase.

"Square's service can be "significantly more expensive" than Groupon for high dollar transactions, Agrawal added, noting that on a $1,000 Visa transaction, Groupon would charge $18.15 and Square would charge $27.50.

Square works better for merchants who accept small payments. On a $5 Visa transaction, Square would charge 13.8 cents, while Groupon would charge 24 cents, Agrawal estimated.

If merchants' average transaction is $16 or more, Groupon is a better deal. If it is lower, Square is usually a better deal, he added."

Since the whole idea behind Groupon is large group purchases, they may be on the right track.  Also by having lower costs, that may attract better group deals from retailors as well. 

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michaelsumastre
michaelsumastre
10/22/2012 7:06:24 PM
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Re: New Payment Options
I think Groupon doesn't really need this kind of jump. They are stable and doing well as they are. I also have a feeling that if they will pursue this change, they might be doing this to better serve their customers and not to compete with other payment processors.

 

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Nnanci
Nnanci
10/22/2012 5:25:05 PM
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As a chess player, my eyes always pop out in excitement wherever i spot the word 'Gambit' Good title.... Groupon's making a sacrifice and just like in a game of chess, you don't always know upfront why a player has made a seemingly dubious move. Sometimes it is indeed because they have seen an opportunity far ahead, and sometimes it is just to confuse the opponent into a blunder.

Either way, i hope that Groupon has the technical resources to enable it to play at the lowest cost for long enough to get in enough customers.

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KrithiS
KrithiS
10/22/2012 2:25:27 PM
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Groupon as a Payment Processor
Groupon foray into payments is an essential move towards future development. Going by the prices, Groupon might trigger a price war with its competitive rates. When we look at the features, it seems to be similar to its existing competitors. One advantage of Groupon is its existing client base and the company extends  payment processing to all payments. 

I have a question here - Is Groupon entering the payment business to expand its traditional market of online deals? 

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